New Toy

[Derrict]

Derrict gets another camera....... go figure

http://asianguywithacamera.com/images/misc/1dmkii_01.jpg

Canon 1D Mark II!

[Vestax]

Nearly as big as my penix¬

[Derrict]

it's only 4" in length hahahahahahahhaha

[Varran]

out of curiousity any reason for going canon instead of the nikon d70?

[Derrict]

out of curiousity any reason for going canon instead of the nikon d70?

I've owned 4 Canon bodies so it's just natural to continue buying them due to the lenses. Plus Canon owns Nikon when it comes to high ISO image quality and FPS. Nikon starts showing excessive noise at 800. I can shoot 1600 and 3200 and still have excellent image quality.

The Nikon D70 is an entry level body whereas the 1D MKII is a pro-level body; the two aren't on the same level. The D2X would be Nikon's equivalent to the 1D MKII

[Hailie]

Sigh, I was expecting something else! Not sure why though..

[Andaas]

Sigh, I was expecting something else! Not sure why though..

I think you want this site (http://www.goodvibes.com). (Semi-NSFW)

[Artious]

yep, Hailie's mind is always on those toys. I hear they're scheduled to replace men by 2015.

[Derrict]

Sigh, I was expecting something else! Not sure why though..

none of that stuff in my closet!

[Hailie]

OMFG back to school sale!!!!

possible nsfw
http://www.goodvibes.com/item--i-1-2-AK-0403.html

Let your fingers do the buzzing with this Good Vibes exclusive modernized Swedish massager.

[Varran]

Cool info on the camera differences. A friend had recommended the nikon to my wife (she thinks of herself as an amateur photographer) saying it was the best camera for her.

She's never been trained at it, just takes pics wherever we go of everything she sees. She just finds that most of the normal cameras out there don't get what she wants out of the images. It never used to look like what it was in her mind. After getting the Nikon she said it looks right now.

Maybe it's just time for her to get into a class and learn what she needs

[Derrict]

Any camera can take good pics, regardless if it's a point & shoot or SLR. Give me a point and shoot and I can take better pics than a novice with an SLR. It's all about learning how to use the settings under certain lighting, framing the shots, composition, etc.

As far as DSLR brands, Nikon is pretty good right out of the box. Nice saturation, decent sharpness, good color tone.... but, digital generally requires more post processing so to get the most out of a photo, Photoshop is worth every penny (if you actually buy it).

Nikon has great wide angle lenses, Canon has better telephoto lenses. So when people shoot sports, Canon is the preferred body. When people shoot landscapes, Nikon generally has the edge. Both have pros and cons but imo, Canon has the slight edge, which is also why they own 59% of the DSLR market.

[Derrict]

OMFG back to school sale!!!!

possible nsfw
http://www.goodvibes.com/item--i-1-2-AK-0403.html

Let your fingers do the buzzing with this Good Vibes exclusive modernized Swedish massager.

Now why would anyone want to massage their finger?! It makes the noise-picking experience that much better?



























lol

[Varran]

As far as DSLR brands, Nikon is pretty good right out of the box. Nice saturation, decent sharpness, good color tone.... but, digital generally requires more post processing so to get the most out of a photo, Photoshop is worth every penny (if you actually buy it).



Yeah, I bought her CS2 for the Mac and she spends most of the day on doing post-processing (otherwise known as having fun with pictures)

[Derrict]

She's actually downloading midget porn. She switches over to PS2 when you enter the room.

The things she does when you aren't around....................

[Varran]

well... she watches a ton of porn while I am around... lord knows why she'd try to hide it... silly girl

[Angelie]

Hey Derrict - any reason why not go for the 1Ds and just get the 1D? Or is it just a hype of ish when it comes to price vs difference between the 1d and 1ds? Thanks in advanced.

[Derrict]

For what I shoot (automotive), there's no need to spend $6k on the 1Ds MKII and get a full frame 16 megapixel camera. Full frame is actually worse for me since I tend to shoot at the longer telephoto lengths. The 1D MKII 1.3x crop and the 20D 1.6x crop actually enlargen my photo.

For example, a 200mm lens on the 1Ds MKII is... 200mm. On the 1D MKII it is 260mm and on the 20D it is 320mm.

The 45 point autofocus system and 9 FPS on the 1D MKII is also top in its class. To hear the 9 shots firing off in 1 second will turn some heads.

The 1Ds MKII is a great camera, don't get me wrong, but it's severely overpriced because Canon has the full frame market due to the lack of competition. If I shot more weddings, landscape, portraits, still life/abstract, it might be worth buying but for the action/sports photography I do, it's not worth the $$$$. The 5D is less expensive but it's not worth the $2300 used / $2900 new price; again, overpriced because Canon owns the market. If the 5D was $1700 used, $2500 new, it'd be in my camera bag as a back up body.

My plan down the road, probably in a year, is to sell the 20D and get the 5D as a back up. The 20D has the 16-35 f/2.8L on it now but that lens is better for the 5D.

[Angelie]

Thanks for the info on the camera, D. Since you mentioned weddings and portraits/landscapes, u'd go for the 1Ds, wouldn't the weight of the 1Ds be a factor? My brother in law is a professional wedding photographer and he hates the 1Ds and said that the 20D / 30D is sufficient and the weight is superb. Here is his website btw...

http://dinolara.com/

His work is what really got me into photography and i absolutely love his work... but unlike him - id like to get more into underwater photography - but right now, perfecting my buoyancy is key first as it's super hard to stay still and take a picture of something...(not to mention the casing for my camera is more expensive than the camera itself) :p

[Derrict]

nice pics :bigthumb:

The 1Ds MKII weighs the same as the 1D MKII (55 oz w/ battery). I'm use to the weight so it's not that bad. With the 70-200 f/2.8L IS, my set up weighs about 7 lbs. You get use to the weight after awhile.

My 20D with the battery grip & 2 batteries with teh 70-200 f/2.8L IS weighs about 6.5 lbs so the weights are pretty close.

If I was strictly a wedding photographer, I'd definately throw the money into a 1Ds MKII. The extra megapixels is a huge plus for those who do large prints. The 1D MKII and 20D are 8.2 mp, which is good for ~ 20"x30" prints but wedding photos are generally bigger. Those cameras can print larger but the 1Ds is just better.

I don't like the water so I'll never try that =)

[Derrict]

Just got another toy

http://asianguywithacamera.com/temp/alien_bee_800_01.jpg

I can't wait until Christmas so I can justify buying more stuff ;)

[Kirynos]

You probably should move that umbrella out of the way, so we can see the katana's better.

:confuse:

[Derrict]

I'll take a picture of them tomorrow if you really want to see them hehe

[Angelie]

Hey Derrict,

I finally ordered the camera :) Thanks again for the advice

Here's a list of my initial order (I got the camera with the newbie lense because there are times I dont really want that long lense attached hehe - like just family pics at home) all from BHPhoto. It cost me about nearly 2k (but hopefully getting 270 back from rebates :)


Canon 30D
Zoom Telephoto EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM
BP-511A Rechargeable Lithium-Ion Battery
Street & Field: Lens Case 2
SlingShot 100 AW Camera Bag


PS
Aind - this is why I don't have a new comp yet hehe -- I keep on finding other things to buy like the plasma tv, this camera, and the lasik procedure :P

[Berae]

BP-511A Rechargeable Lithium-Ion Battery
Battery operated new toy?

[Angelie]

Battery operated new toy?

yes :)

[Derrict]

Canon crew +1

Grats on the purchase.

I haven't bought any camera gear for a few months, which is a good thing since I can spend the money on the car(s). I just tore out the stock Bose system and installed Eclipse speakers and a Kenwood in-dash DVD player (7" touch screen lcd). I'm a clean freak so I'm always cleaning the finger prints off the LCD lol.

[Berae]

Canon crew +1

Grats on the purchase.

I haven't bought any camera gear for a few months, which is a good thing since I can spend the money on the car(s). I just tore out the stock Bose system and installed Eclipse speakers and a Kenwood in-dash DVD player (7" touch screen lcd). I'm a clean freak so I'm always cleaning the finger prints off the LCD lol.
Well, that shouldn't be too difficult since you are a camera buff, and must have lens cleaners with you at all times :)

[aed]

I got a new toy as well!

It's not as advanced as Derrict's umbrella up there, but it gets the job done.

/aed

[Angelie]

Canon crew +1

Hey Derrict (or other Photo enthusiast),

Can you please share your thoughts on the Sandisk Extreme III vs Extreme IV. Is it worth getting the 40 MB write/read rather than just your normal 20 MB write/read? Also I read some issues with the Sandisk Extreme IV and was wondering if that's been taken care of with a firmware update.

Was planning on getting a copule of 4GB Compact Flash (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=1097&A=details&Q=&sku=356017&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation) or just one 8GB flash card (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=1097&A=details&Q=&sku=430913&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation) for the new 30D.

Thanks!

[Derrict]

I never really bothered looking into the faster cards since it's not high on my list of important things.

[Eomer]

All I know is that I bought a 512mb SD card without bothering to look at the read/write speeds, and now it takes 10-15 fucking seconds for the picture to save when it was 1-3 before.

Damn you Kingston.

[Angelie]

All I know is that I bought a 512mb SD card without bothering to look at the read/write speeds, and now it takes 10-15 fucking seconds for the picture to save when it was 1-3 before.

Damn you Kingston.

damn are u serious? I just bought another 4 gb CFCard for $50 bucks (133x) on top of my 4GB Sandisk (wanted to find out which one's better).

So when it takes 10-15 seconds to save - you meant onto your computer from the card reader right? (I hope).

[Eomer]

No, I mean my camera is useless for 10-15 seconds after I take a picture, as it's saving it to the memory card. That time period is obviously affected by quality and resolution settings. But at the highest settings, it's easily over 10 seconds. The original card was much faster.

Really frustrating when trying to take multiple shots. But I use it maybe once every month or two, so not something I'm overly worried about.

[Angelie]

Makes me wonder why this EOS 30D (http://www.usaphotonation.com/products.asp?product_id=12760&engine=shopcartusa) is half the price I paid for a brand new camera...only $499 after rebate (even $399 if you buy a 2nd valid canon Item).

[Angelie]

HAHAHA - this link (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198730&highlight=photonation) and this link (http://www.resellerratings.com/store/USA_Photo_Nation) explains why those sites can offer it so cheap :D

[Angelie]

Hmmm - i'll be taking RAW shots 95% of the time and I thought that all DSLRs write at the same speed of 16x (or 2.4MB / sec). This info, I read from one of the reviewers in New Egg. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?Item=N82E16820171104)

However, looking at the table on this site (http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-8478), it seems that the card does play a difference on the write speed of the camera.

Well, I'll see when the Sandisk Extreme III and Kingston 133x come in the mail :)

[Derrict]

Hmmm - i'll be taking RAW shots 95% of the time and I thought that all DSLRs write at the same speed of 16x (or 2.4MB / sec). This info, I read from one of the reviewers in New Egg. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?Item=N82E16820171104)

However, looking at the table on this site (http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-8478), it seems that the card does play a difference on the write speed of the camera.

Well, I'll see when the Sandisk Extreme III and Kingston 133x come in the mail :)

I saw those specs when the link was passed around half a year ago but I don't worry much about .2-.3 seconds of write speed, especially with the buffer I have on the 1d mkii. I still use 4 Sandisk Ultra 2 1GB cards, pretty slow compared to the newer stuff.

[Angelie]

Derrict (please help)

I'm looking for a substitute for the EF 24-70 F/2.8L (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=264304&is=USA&addedTroughType=search) lens or its high end counterpart the EF 85 / 1.2L lens (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=423691&is=USA&addedTroughType=search).

I was wondering what you would advice for a novice lens of the same function I can play around with before I invest in those more expensive L lenses. I was looking at the 85 mm/ 1.8 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=12182&is=USA&addedTroughType=search) to start with but was wondering if you can suggest something better around the same price range ($300-$500).

Thanks!

[Derrict]

If you don't need the longer focal length, the Tamron 17 - 50 f/2.8 goes for $400-430. If you want more reach, the Tamron 28-75 goes for about $330-350. I started out on the 28-75 but sold it since it wasn't wide enough @ 28mm.

The Canon 85 f/1.8 goes for about $400. You can save about $60-100 if you buy used.

[Angelie]

Hey Derrict - what do you think about the new beast, Canon EOS-1D Mark III (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=6222&A=details&Q=&sku=484813&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation)

Do you think it's gonna be worth the $5,000?

[Derrict]

Yeah, it's worth $4k-5k easily. For me it's not a huge upgrade so I'm going to hold off. The extra 2 mp would be nice when I'm cropping, as is the larger LCD. ISO 6400 is pretty damn impressive.

[Vinilaa]

For Halie, NSFW.

I said NSFW! (http://www.babeland.com/glass-dildos.html)

:p

[Lonskils]

every girl should have at least 2 of these!

[Kuroni]

One for each hole?

OmG did I just type that? :/

[Angelie]

Yeah, it's worth $4k-5k easily. For me it's not a huge upgrade so I'm going to hold off. The extra 2 mp would be nice when I'm cropping, as is the larger LCD. ISO 6400 is pretty damn impressive.

But only for sports events though right? I haven't encountered any necessity for crazy shutter speeds at weddings and/or other celebrations. Since most prints I've done are at most 13"s for albums, 30D is currently sufficient and I think I'm just gonna get more high end glass (for now). Not to mention that this weight+lens (say 24-70mm), when held up for 5-6 hours gets pretty heavy.

But you never know, I might get tempted to buy this beaut. :)

[Derrict]

the 1D series body has multiple abilities that extend beyond sports/action photography. Because it's weather sealed, it's preferred by photojournalists that travel in harsh conditions (desert, beach, wildlife, etc). With great dynamic range, it is also used by portrait/wedding photographers that aren't willing to spend the $7k-8k on a 1Ds MKII. But, it's the camera body that are preferred by sports photographers due to the best-in-class autofocus system.