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Elkwood
03-06-2009, 05:05 PM
Worth watching for sure !! Me and tink really enjoyed it!!
Angelie
03-06-2009, 05:50 PM
In what position did you enjoy "it" Elkwood?!
gukaistar
03-06-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm hoping to get out this weekend. MUST be part of opening weekend numbers. :)
Domathoine
03-06-2009, 08:53 PM
I'm stuck out of town on a tennis trip, so I can't contribute to opening numbers /cry.
I hear great things, so I can't wait to see this movie in theatres.
Elkwood
03-07-2009, 10:16 AM
I'm hoping to get out this weekend. MUST be part of opening weekend numbers. :)
It did 25 million for friday alone.
gukaistar
03-07-2009, 02:43 PM
It did 25 million for friday alone.
That's hotter then Kall. :o
Kakeku
03-08-2009, 01:07 PM
I did not read the comic book so knew nothing about the watchmen world before I watched movie. The movie was well made, had some good special effect and interesting characters. Somehow it just did not grab me in as other comic based movie, such as spiderman and X-men did.
Lonskils
03-08-2009, 06:59 PM
The most interesting character was the Ink Blot guy. Everyone else was just boring as hell. Best part of movie was the Jail scenes. Severely disappointed.
Beelzebubs
03-08-2009, 11:46 PM
It was pretty decent, not the best film I have seen but still better than anything else out at the moment. Admittedly I watched a cam version but even better video quality will not save it.
Mudderford
03-09-2009, 03:24 AM
good movie helps if u read the book first
Valdis
03-09-2009, 10:35 AM
Followed the book fairly well. Slightly more exciting then the book because of the fairly well done fight scenes. Way to long and filled with way too much blue dong. I mean it was all over the place a non stop deluge of blue cock all over the place.
Elkwood
03-14-2009, 10:51 AM
Interesting how u seemed to notice the blue cock so much valdis :)
Aindayen
03-16-2009, 07:55 PM
I agree with Kake as it didn't draw me in like the other comic books. It was however pretty dark in spots, which I thought gave it higher marks.
It was well done, and is worth seeing in my eyes. Not for kids...
Ain
Domathoine
03-16-2009, 09:24 PM
I thought they did a phenomenal job of drawing you in, which was what I was originally worried about.
They stuck pretty damned close to the comic as well, so no real complaints from me.
Wasn't so keen on some of the love scenes, but, imo, best comic book movie so far.
A- from me.
gukaistar
03-17-2009, 06:48 AM
I finally went and saw it on Sunday (yes missed Sarth, but grats on 1shot).
I didn't love it, but I did enjoy it and would recommend it (ON THE BIG SCREEN or HI DEF [points at bubs]). It stuck pretty close to the book and they managed to convey the story well on screen. Great fight scenes, near perfect special effects, and the costumes were fantastic.
Valdis
03-17-2009, 12:35 PM
Look here Elk its not my fault there was more wang in that movie then most porns.
gukaistar
03-18-2009, 08:15 AM
It's true. I forgot to mention all the blue cawk swinging around.
Domathoine
03-18-2009, 09:09 AM
To be honest, I really didn't that there was a gratuitious amount of blue cock swinging around.
It wasn't anywhere near as prevelant as people made it out to be.
Lonskils
03-18-2009, 11:53 AM
My point of view was Haley as Rorschach stole the film. If not for him I would have probably fallen asleep during the movie, he was the only character I believed. Everyone else seemed to just sorta walk through the movie.
"You people don't understand. I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!" Was the best fucking line of any movie I've seen in 20 years the way he did that, put chills down my spine. The rest of the characters looked so bored.
Kakeku
03-18-2009, 01:05 PM
I didn't get it why these characters are called Superheroes. None of them showed any super power except Dr. Manhattan, who had way over too much power.
I noticed a couple scenes with the blue cock. But overall I didn't notice it much. The love scenes were so awkward. Not sure if it is done intentationally to follow the book or traits of characters.
Rorschach was the most interesting character. It is sad he was dead at the end.
The movie is simply too long. It probably would be a better movie if it cut into two hour playing time.
Angelie
03-18-2009, 02:13 PM
Spoiler warning would be nice for endings ><
I haven't seen it yet :cry:
Andaas
03-19-2009, 03:04 PM
Maybe the Watchmen producers were trying to plug another movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412922/).
Gheltire
03-20-2009, 09:16 PM
the superhero deal is really a treatment of humans as heroes, not necessarily that they were superhuman. The only superhuman has really ascended beyond humanity due to his creation and as such provides Moore with the ability to have an "impartial" observer to the events of the story
and yeah im trying to be as ambiguous as possible to not give spoilers
but the point kakeku is if superheros are supposed to save the world, and that's what they believe they are here for, what happens when as humans they encounter their failings and wind up losing the battle with evil, yet the end result is something better than anything they could have ever accomplished following an "ends dont justify the means" philosophy.
How would you as a human, or as a hero, handle that truth revealed in the last pages of the graphic novel.
The people in the story arent defined really by their powers. If you watch it closely, theyre really defined by their relationships. Abusive moms, control freak ex super hero mom, living in the shadow of a well known predecessor, inability to sexually function outside of latex, attempt to continue to BE human while those around you may be dying by their very proximity, who is my father, am I a babysitter, what is the best way to save everyone, what is the best way to let everyone know the real story behind the world they don't care to see
the story isn't about their powers at all. It's about a personal struggle with being human while wearing a cape.
Without too much more, you've got to put yourself in the mid 80s when this came out. Cold War is winding to a close but we don't know it yet. Capitalism wins over Stalinist Communism, but we're still keeping a close eye on Poland and the eastern bloc countries who are becoming more and more western friendly...Reagan is in office, in his second term, and the US has regained a lot of world cred. There was this ideological struggle that in our world was maybe winding to a conclusion...
But in Moore's world we never left the 70s Nixon era of political control and dark behind the scenes machinations. We "won" the Cold War by the appearance of Doc Manhattan, and like in every good arms argument, the creation of one ultimate weapon leads to the research of the next, and soon the world is pointing nukes at each other across the oceans.
So Moore needs a way to give us a cautionary tale too, something abotu the evil in man when he thinks its us against them (the whole Black Freighter can be tied in here too, the cautionary tale it gives mankind, but thats not in the movie)...and he does, he gives the world a reason to unite, and the superheros of the world if they had succeeded would have left the world stumbling towards Armageddon.
Closing, and a tidbit towards those who havent seen it, this shouldn't spoil too much for the movie. For the book it does though.
In 1985, in discussions with Gorbachev, President Reagan makes this statement:
"how easy his task and mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries .."
Kakeku if you can grab a copy of the book it's just awesome. Read it like you believe there are people out there who just want to save the world because that's what heroes are supposed to do. Then watch it fall flat. And you'll see why the Comedian laughed.
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