Rotation Schedule - 7/30 to 7/31

Hoss took out trak on 7/28 I believe.

Also, head's up - Klandicar is up now.

Will pop him tonight, thanks for the heads up.

Just noticed the rotation order for Sev and was wondering how that was decided.

ML has been the only guild killing Sev on a regular basis, hence any rotation would begin with us. On our last kill we entered into an agreement to rotate him with L'Malla which would make the rotation as follows:

Sev: ML(7/27), L'Malla(new to rotation)

Since this rotational agreement happened prior to the one posted above I am assuming that L'Malla would get there turn then the rotation would begin again as follows:

Sev: ML (7/27) (beginning of rotation), L'Malla(whenever they get him), everyone else in whatever order you people decide.

This is how the IGB has worked previous to this point and how I expect it to continue working.

--The Unconscious

Edit: ML took out Ragefire today (7/30)

I'll put ML at the beginning with thier 7/27 kill date - but I'm not going to shuffle IG and L`Malla cause I'm sure IG has already seen that they were up for it


I did this rotation just the same as Trak's - a random listing of names - no one has to "prove" themselves on either of these - it isn't like the other mobs


*rant deleted cause I think I'm just cranky today*

Well I have a slight problem with it as ML kinda bumrushed us on the last Sev spawn, which is why we discussed the rotation.

So IG has next Sev correct? Just making sure because hes due to spawn.

Last I checked he was about a 7 day spawn after a death, and ML got him on friday if I recall.

Kland Dead (7/30)

You mention in this thread that "ML has been the only guild killing Sev on a regular basis". I recall you stating the opposite of this on the previous IGB forum, stating the ML hasn't killed Severilous very much lately and you didn't know who was killing him.

Considering there was no rotation, and you have contradicted your response regarding ML's status with Sev, and the fact that all guilds have been looking to kill Sev (and just not finding him). I think that your basis for ML getting the seed position on the rotation to be completely unfounded.

This is and has been a FFA mob. Just because ML has found him up more often than others doesn't give you rights to get the next one.

This is just my opinion, take it for what its worth.

IG is up next for Sev - yes

Please add Hoss into the Yelinak rotation.

Also, Vindication wants into a rotation on Tormax, so please schedule them for Tormax after our next attempt, since they will be entering the rotation as a new participant. Hoss killed Tormax tonight, July 30.

Issue of Tormax / Yelinak resolved between myself and Andaas in irc this evening. So Ciner, Ini, Sirensa dont overreact please :eek:

Why am I getting tells that ML isnt going to honor the sev rotation?

One minute your telling me that you havent killed sev in weeks then your claiming your killing him on a regular basis. So what is it?

I said we hadn't killed him in a while since he hadn't spawned. We've gotten the last 3 that we knew about, that however had quite some time involved, at the time the question was asked we hadn't killed him in over 10 days.

The mob in question was FFA until the last Sev in question (much as Yelinak was) on which we entered into rotation with L'Malla (the same way ML entered into rotation with Vindication for Yelinak), they are up for the next sev. Everyone else is up on rotation after them, after a new rotation begins (/em points to the Yelinak rotation as the precedence).

I don't appreciate the rules on the IGB changing at people's whims or when it suits them. The rules are going to be applied to this rotation just as if it were any other. IG is NOT up for the next Sev, if it comes down to it ML will kill it and have a L'Malla rep there to loot it.

--The Unconscious

You are a more recent rep than most of us here - you come in wanting to set all these new rules and generally making trouble out of a relatively peaceful situation.

As I stated before - the Sev rotation was set up EXACTLY like the Trak one was as it is not a Mob that anyone has to prove themselves for - but simply a mob that everyone seems to want at this time.

ML going FFA will only hurt themselves in the long run and ruin the rapport with the IGB.

L`Malla is still high on the rotation list - I only put IG first cause they had posted on the previous IGB as wanting the next one where L`Malla had not.

Lots more I can add here but it would only be useless - either follow the rotations set down or face any consequences by skipping rotation.

You know Coven isn't capable of doing a damn thing against you - but there are other guilds here who can.

I don't want FFA.

I want consistant rules.

The IGB was never peaceful or friendly, if we could all be reasonable and friendly, we wouldn't need an IGB.

If we were reasonable, peaceful and friendly, after Vindication killed Yelinak twice, ML would be up next on rotation (we had been trying).

I don't care if the rules are nice or friendly, I want them to be consistent.

I want them to stop changing every time it's convenient for the involved parties.

I don't care if the rules are fair, as long as they're equally unfair to everyone.

Yelinak set a precedence and I expect it to be followed for every new rotation here on out.

--The Unconscious

In my opinion Yelinak ONLY set a precidance for mobs that not everyone is known to be able to kill. Mobs like Trak, Sev etc should not fall under that condition simply becuase everyone can kill them and they are only being added to rotation to ease tensions amongst the guilds. And as far as sev goes, several weeks ago it was brought up to consider making it a rotated mob. Those posts are lost because of the moving of the IGB however. I agree that new mobs that not everyone is known to be able to kill should follow the way Yelinak worked however, older mobs that everyone can already kill and are known to kill being added to the rotation should not.

If we had the old IGB to look back on - you would see that nothing is changed.

When a mob that many can do is decided to set up a rotation for - we just plug in the whole list of names in a random order

This happened for:

Trak
CT (the first time)
Ragefire
Inny (who has since been dropped)

When a mob that only a few can do starts getting a longer list it starts with the ones who have proven - and then others are added as they request a spot

This happened for

Dain
Zland
Kland
and the other newer ones

How do I know this?

I'M THE ONE WHO STARTED THE DAMN ROTATION SCHEDULE!!!


Trak does NOT qualify for list #2 just because ML has a member perma-camped in the zone. No guild can get away with killing a mob in this game without at least someone from another guild. not only finding out that it was killed, but what it dropped. Our count on the number of times ML has killed Sev in a row is 6 I think. (I'm not one of the ones who keeps track of those).

Months ago 5 guilds were floating around the idea of a posted rotation schedule - so I made one. I kept it up, updating everyday until I took a little "break" in which time Quintall took over for me. So don't get on my back about the rules changing.
YOU are the one who made a big Rule making post your first day here that started causing conflicts.

Oh yeah, I'm hot about this. I've worked too damn hard for this schedule to see ANYONE screw it up. I know EXACTLY what the rules are for it - cause I've been implementing them since it started with some discussion from everyone with reguard to what happens if a guild fails a certain number of times in a row, skips rotation,etc.


Ask Ale - I consider this schedule to be my "baby". I started it - I update it - I work with it EVERY DAY. I even gave up my duties as an officer and as the Guild Fund person to concentrate solely on making these schedules work for everyone. I make SURE that every Coven member knows how important this schedule is to me and how it would be a BIG mistake for them to try to go around any postings on the IGB by ANY other guild - reguardless of whether we are on good terms with them or not.

I don't HAVE to like you - I don't even have to ever group with you. What I do have to do is keep these rotations going as smoothly as possible. I take it as a personal offence when people screw with it.

"L`Malla is still high on the rotation list - I only put IG first cause they had posted on the previous IGB as wanting the next one where L`Malla had not. "


So I should start hooping and hollering everytime I want something? Thought we didn't work that way ;)

On a side note, we've killed Sev three times...ever ;) 1 scale :( Talk about luck heh.

I agree with the above arguments, Sev should be in a different class. I also can now agree with the rotation above now that a distinction has been made.

The problem is that the rules for the rotation are all in someone's head and not in print.

I would ask again, as I did when I first came here to know what the rules are. Apparently the rules do exist, but no one is willing to tell me what they are except in bits and pieces. A full disclosure of the rules would go far in preventing these sorts of misunderstandings in the future.

You must look at this from my perspective.

I come in try to figure out what the rules are, people tell me I'm trying to overly complicate things. The only over complications so far have erupted when I was not aware of how things are supposed to work. From my point of view they change at the whim of the person in charge of the schedule.

What are the rules, in detail? I would very much like to know.

--The Unconscious