Oh Burnem, the more the game changes, the more you stay the same!Quote:
Originally Posted by BurnemWizfyre
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Oh Burnem, the more the game changes, the more you stay the same!Quote:
Originally Posted by BurnemWizfyre
Actually no.Quote:
Originally Posted by BurnemWizfyre
I mean this:
http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/sh...?threadid=1391
Hook up the betas! =p
Been saying it for a long time, but VanGuard is so definitely going to be the real EQ(2) killer.
Oh brother, not another "killer" prophesy. As if EQ2 needed any help killing itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Argonah
just remember Elidroth
QUIVERS GO ON THE BACK NOT IN MY FRIKKIN INVENTORY SLOTS!!!
thanks!:)
Yeah give me a beta invite fooker.
Well, it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarissa
For those of us not sold on the cartooney style of WoW, VanGuard is the daddy.
It's been shown time and again that the only thing that kills an MMOG is itself. Whether that's by killing itself off the bat with a shoddy release (say, AO, although I hear they're doing alright now), or poor changes or lack of content later on after a successful release (DAOC I think? Never tried it), or just the game itself getting very long in the tooth (UO, EQ). So far, there hasn't been a MMOG that's come out and "killed" a previously released one. I'd be willing to bet that even WOW didn't have that big of an impact on say, EQ, Eve Online, AC2, DAOC, COH, or nameyourMMOGhere's subcription numbers. Maybe in the long term one game can siphon some people off another, but that's probably rare and unlikely due to the nature of these games. People don't want to just abandon all their hard work because another game has a cooler quest system or better tradeskills.
I think you could argue that EQ bled a ton from UO, mostly from people who were not into the d3wd thing and pink PK cloaks roaming through dungeons for unsuspecting soloer's....EQ offered something completely new, 1st person play...and the ability to toggle the red "kill me" target on your back.
The games after EQ though are just branching from that point...there's not a really A single concept that you can point to for AO, WOW, DAOC, SWG, etc that is revolutionary...so the fact that we don't move on I think is more of a horizontal thing...if UO to EQ was a vertical jump, all the movements we've made the past couple years have been horizontal....if it's horizontal, and I'm not really changing my gameplay much by going to X Y or Z, there's almost no point...it's just different graphics, maybe a different vision (tm), or whatever...almost like extended expansions for MMORPG rather than a tree for EQ or whatever
So theyre not going to bleed much from the same pool of MMORPG guys...I bought two WoW accounts but kept one EQ one (cancelling other three), but net total I'm still paying about the same to play about the same game, with slightly different structure. When The Next Best Thing comes along and is vertical, expect the UO/EQ migration...right now we're all just milling around waiting for that leap.
Best game series EVER.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer
Must..resist..putting..CD..in..again..
Playing WoW, just for the record. But not too much..;-)
Gryfalia
The power of Rome: Total War compels you!
hmm I'll check it out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thuggo
Haha, Eli your working on V:SoH? Congrats Man, make it a rocken good game. Well I am sure it is going to be amazing, I followed it up till this summer when I sorta trailed off because I was in Europe...anyway...I am playing WoW now, and I must say, PvP adds such a huge element to MMO's, it is so much fun.
Ubarx
Shadowmoon
If anyone wants to find me that is how. It is fun, I am a shadowspec'd priest, I love it and I love PvP! Hope everyone is doing well =)
It was already a VERY good game design before I got there. I'm still blown away by the things I find in the design docs that are actually in game. Of course.. I can give away no Sekret Sauce(tm) but trust me on this.. Vanguard is the game you'll all want to be playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubar
Who is Rob Pardo? :eek:
omg it's TUL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinilaa
Definitely looking forward to Vanguard. I've seen just enough about it to get me excited......but I'm trying to not get too informed heh......the more I don't know about it the more "wonder" will be in the game for me.