She is a ranger. But in the spirit of loot whoring, she will be taking the next Gharn's rock as well.Quote:
Originally posted by Tarissa
I thought Siame was a monk!
Thx!
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She is a ranger. But in the spirit of loot whoring, she will be taking the next Gharn's rock as well.Quote:
Originally posted by Tarissa
I thought Siame was a monk!
Thx!
Maybe it's because there are no other choices if they want to play *end* game encounters? It's hard, if not impossible, to get into Hoss or Vindi. If I was in a guild just to get loot, I would consider going to ML but I don't play just get to loot. I have no clue if the officers in ML give themselves way too much loot but I am pretty sure the rest of the members of ML did get something out of all the loot that dropped in NToV. You have to admit that in one clearing of NToV a whole lot of loot drops. Looking at Vindi's website, it looks like Mr. Rot gets quite a bit of the loot that drops when they clear NTOV. I would bank on the fact that the officers in ML might give nice stuff to their twinks but out of all that loot, I will most likely get *something* after a clearing or two. A few items from NToV = better then zero items from NToV. Maybe that is their thinking.Quote:
Someone explain to me why the 982374234 members of ML put up with that. Seriously.
I have to say I am a little surprised at the responses here tho. I read so many posts on DRo.net from Hoss members after FFA started on the server about Vindication not breaking any rules. Posts about only so much room at the *end* game in Everquest. Lola had a nice analogy about EQ being like a job interview. If you are more qualified then you get the job. In EQ the qualities you need for end game is time and numbers. Looks like ML fits the bill better then anyone else so VI gives them the big lewts and fun. After all, ML is not doing anything against the rules. You don't actually expect them to share NToV do you? Maybe now you can understand where all the whining and unhappy people on DRo.net were coming from. There is only so much room at the top of EQ and it looks like there isn't much left after ML has taken their share. I mean, they earned it, right? They have the numbers, time and enough skill to get what they want. According to VI they can take as much as they can.
Oh well, I hope no one took this as a flame because it wasn't. I think Hoss is a respectable guild with lots of quality members. It just seemed like a lot of these responses were somewhat hypocritical.
Sirensa said it best: THANKS VERANT. High end EQ is FUBARed.
So evil Andaas!
/Auction Buying Tolan's Long Sword on Hoss' next Vulak raid!
Seriously I will pay you for rotting loot!
That is all.
I think how Ml keeps a lot of peeps is several reasons
#1 Most people when they hit the higher lvls want to be part of an established Uber guild we all know that HOSS is hard to get into IG and vindi and other guilds can be picky. Ml on the other hand believes in numbers so its easy to get into ml so to speak.
#2 So when I join ML cause its easy to get into they make me feel welcome and give me this speech about how effort is rewarded. So being a new guy in ml you spend a lot of time geting to know people and it takes at least a couple months to get to know everyone and you dont expect loot in that time so your putting forth this massive effort to be noticed. And lo and behold you get something nice handed down to you from someone who got something better. So your like wow cool loot.
#3 that being said you wait your turn patiently for loot and some of the loot trickles down to you (Ragan Nomics) But you never truely get something nice from a mob unless said officer has it the leader of your class and you notice this but no one is saying anything so you dont want to be the squeeky wheel who seems greddy. No matter how hard you try no matter how many raids you attend No matter what you do loot goes to the same people over and over. and there always people who want to be part of an uber guild and if you complain you are replaced.
#4 ML believes in sensorship say something Baramos dosn"t like it gets deleted almost immediatly they monitor there board's heavily like the KGB or something and a story made up about you and why you got booted. You see this happen and think hell no i aint saying anyhting. because if i do ill get booted and i wont have anywere to go that does anything fun.
So thats how People get sucked into the ZERG hive of gayness.
Of course its my opinon and its like an ass everyone has one
Well, if it was a good analogy, then I won't complain too much that it wasn't me that made it =pQuote:
Lola had a nice analogy about EQ being like a job interview.
Oops, it was Sirensa. =P
But you had a lot of good posts too!
Tryss, Hoss has never believed in A) quantity over quality and B) unfair loot distribution, ex: officer's 2nd or 3rd twink getting Vulak loot. These two things have been going on in Mythic Legion for a long time.
We have been poking fun at Mythic Legion for those two things for a LONG time as well and don't expect to see it stop anytime soon.
To say for EQ end game what you need is time and numbers is not always true. With good time management and skilled/efficient members you can still get a lot done without a large amount of time or people (in EQ terms).
My response was based solely on the fact that people were all happy about basically committing that huge time and effort for potentially no reward. That ML is happy it spent 20 hours in ToV to get some Vulak loot. If its members have time and numbers and if that's what it takes to "win" in EverQuest, then frankly, I don't really want to be a winner under those rules. I don't think Hoss has ever subscribed to a tactic of numbers to win and I know that I'm not going to camp Vulak for 7 hours with 97 of my
guildmates.
I don't think that this is a victory. Its a sad testament to what it takes to ..and I use this term loosely "dominate a server". I admit, I like to raid. But I think all of us raid in the hope that we will get something someday. I think its BS that the people in Mythic Legion get a bone tossed their way now and then to be happy while the officers and friends of the officers get their pick of the litter. I would say that was an exaggeration, but I'm sure that people who post to this board regularly can name at least a score of examples where first-kill loot or prime loot went to ML higher ups. Hoss is good about that. We give loot very fairly I think. Its just really grim that some people want "uber content" so bad they will put up with abuse and being ignored.
Then again, how many people do you know that stayed in abusive relationships because they "really loved the person and hoped one day their partner would change"?
Nes
Sorry, I was unclear on what I considered a little hypocritical. It's obvious you guys don't believe in doing things in huge numbers or decking out officer twinks. It just seemed that some were pretty pissed off that ML was, and most likely will, perma camp NToV. Complaining that ML won't 'share' the mobs, so to speak. That was the whole issue with the IGB. Making sure the same guilds don't the same mobs over and over, while the other guilds get to look on because they can't log in soon enough or whatever.
"To say for EQ end game what you need is time and numbers is not always true. With good time management and skilled/efficient members you can still get a lot done without a large amount of time or people (in EQ terms)."
I meant FIF. With 40 people there for a Vindicator attempt, we got spanked. Tried again and lost 10 people and killed him quick. Sometimes less is more unless you are racing to the mob at 11 am PST. =(
And I agree with you Nesuril. My idea of fun is not the same idea as fun for ML people. Of course, my idea of fun was the IGB even tho the wait time for a mob was at times frustrating. Other people's idea of fun is no IGB and racing to mobs. Guess the world would be pretty boring if we all had the same idea of fun heh.
There is no such thing as "perma-camping" a zone in the FFA game. That's a fact.
Nes
Well, I'll stick by what I said they didn't break any rules. Also, ML may and probably will have the advantage in NToV. Most of us know this Tryss, just because we know it, DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO ENJOY IT. Also, they were talking about something different. If you aren't trying to cause problems, you are wrong. We did not start the FFA, first of all. So well that in mind, I don't expect them to share NToV. But it DOES suck that we might not get it. That is not hypocritical, that is more like a reaction to a situation. If I said, FFA is amazing I will never bitch at any of its results and it is 100% flawless, then I complained, call me a hypocrit. I will respect another guilds right to go FFA, and not call them traitors, whores, liars, sneeky bastards, because that is immature and uncalled for.
I basically called them losers, Dharrk. Does that count on your list? :p
*was referring to the FFA situation*
but name calling in general sux, proving a point is more effective, unless your talking upon deaf ears, then your just wasting your time. :D
shut up you fat ogre piece of poo!
omg my last bit of self esteem is gone :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Most of us know this Tryss, just because we know it, DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO ENJOY IT.
This is what I was talking about. Lots of people were ripping on others when they would complain that going FFA would ruin Everquest for them. They will not enjoy FFA because they will not get the mobs they would like, just like you won't get into NToV as much as you would like to.
I saw quite a few posts telling people to stop complaining ( their reaction ) about not having mobs handed to them on platters and if you want to do the high end mobs, get your $%^$ together and go do it. I just found it interesting to find some of Hoss people that were making those types of posts are reacting in somewhat the same fashion, ie, not enjoying it.Quote:
That is not hypocritical, that is more like a reaction to a situation.
Nobody's fault really but VI's. If Mythic Legion starts to share NToV with L`malla, Vindication and Hoss, then NI and IG would hope that Vindication and Hoss will share Dozekar with NI and IG. If that happens then VE will want IG and NI to share Vindicator ( bad example since he spawns so often ) and so on down the line until we are back to a rotation. There is a no good solution that I have heard. Simply not enough *uber* mobs around during the week to keep the level 60 population happy.
Edit: I have my twink druid logged on my 2nd box and the orc pawns are spawing. Got to go!
I'm enjoying it. Like my Ventani raid!?!? I did!
Hoss had been discussing making a move into NToV on the last respawn, however, we also realized that with the slow-ass clearing that ML did the previous week, that many of the dragons may not have been up for hours after an early morning start, so we chose to wait.
This is what led to 97 ML cult followers sitting in NToV for 7 hours while they awaited for their loot god, Vulak, to spawn (who didn't for another 9 hours or something after they finally gave up for the night). I wasn't there, but I wouldn't have touched that Kool Aid.
Oh yeah, what makes you think they are going to have to hand over NToV to us? We can get it ourselves.
Assuming ML owns the server so soon? Give it a bit of time kiddo.
"Assuming ML owns the server so soon? Give it a bit of time kiddo."
No, not at all but I think they have the biggest advantage out of the big 4 guilds as far as FIF is concerned, especially on patch days.
One more thing, Buazag is interested in only one thing in Hoss. Nettle anyone?