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One bomb? Is that a fact? Are you saying we haven't accidently killed Iraqi civilians? I don' t think Bush is another Hitler, but he is a damn incompetent moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
So you voted for the chimp look-alike two-faced lying dolt of a wanna-be warrior that celebrates a national tragedy as the best thing to ever happen to him. Good fucking job!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
Oh I'm not talking saying we haven't killed innocent civilians. I was just addressing those 2 instances that Tilea was using as basis for an argument. As for the death tolls, there are hundreds of site out there, each one touting vastly different death tolls, depending on which side of the political fence you sit on.
How many of his own people did Sadam gas? Wasn't it 500K+ to 1 million? But I suppose we should leave someone like that in power.
Throw the "OMG, where are WMDs?" argument out there too. Do you honestly think if we let weapons inspectors into the US to look for ours, do you honestly think they'd find any? No.
And what is a national tragedy that Bush is supposedly using as his promotional?
Most of Bush's supporters in the exit polls said that their reason for voting the way they did was "Moral Values". I.E. they voted for him because of issues that have no effect on them or people they care about (banning abortions and gay marriages), rather than issues that do directly affect them (healthcare, SS, all the trailerpark supporters on welfare).
GG la~
Wrong. It's actually at it's best since 9/11. Immediately following the attack of 9/11 the Euro was trading at 1.6 USD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaediin
No, he did not gas 500k to 1 million. Several kurdish villages were gassed by Saddam Hussein as punishment for siding with Iran against him. This of course happened while he was our ally. Reagan went so far as to say that Iraq's use of chemical weapons wouldn't hamper our relations with them. Reagan was fine with him being a murdering bastard, as long as he was our murdering bastard. Shit wasn't Reagan in fact the Great God Ra to you connie's? How could he possibley be wrong?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
Yes, I do. It's on the web and the DOD is making no secrets about the fact they are destroying our chemical weapons stockpile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/cbw/cw.htm
http://www.cma.army.mil/
But hell where are the Iraqi WMD's. Here's a map point them out to me.
http://www.defenselink.mil/issues/iraq/iraq.gif
Hi, do you remember 9/11. You might have missed it because I think it happened during your morning recess. Was it a coincidence that the Republican convention was in New York? Or that "pre 9/11 mindset" is one of the favorite catchprhases of Bushites. Or that Bush was a weak an inept president who did all of jack shit for 9 months before 9/11 but then somehow manged to find his voice on that day. It's easy to be a war time president, keep people afraid and give them victories and that's what Dubya likes things, easy. Because he failed in every challenging endeavor in his life. He was a former coke head turned failed business man and born again nutcase that ran on his Daddy's name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
Congratulations on buying into the view of things the media gives you. Of course they don't spin it to show only the negative side of things. Oh wait.. yes they do! If they showed you what was REALLY going on there, unbiased, you know.. REPORTING the news instead of CREATING the news to fit their opinions, you'd see a wildly different picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilea
Of course there are the people who don't want us there, however they fail to show you the literally hundreds of thousands of people who HAVE been thanking the troops. The women and children who are actually going to school again, the troops breaking ground and building 34 new schools and mosques. THIRTY-FOUR. A good friend of mine just got back from Iraq (he's a USMC engineer) who said the picture being painted here is nowhere close to reality. Do you think it's any surprise that some 90% of the ballots cast by active US military personel on the ground in Iraq were for Bush?
How about.. I'm a US citizen and she's not. How about what I said was in reference to the fact that though I vote conservative, my vote in the Presidential election is worthless because my state is so hardline liberal. Let's see.. what else.. OH yeah.. there is that little Hitler reference too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thuggo
Hmm.. Hitler and company kill 6 million Jews, 4 million Polish, etc.. but Bush is Hitler now? Are you people insane? He's nowhere near even the next worst person since Hitler even if you believe the numbers she quotes. Anyone remember a guy named Joseph Stalin? How about Kruschev or Brezhnev? Anyone remember Slobodan Milosevic?
But Bush is the next Hitler. Idiots.
I'm well aware of what 9/11 was. It's the reason I'm in the military: to protect your right to bitch about the president. I was making sure you were talking about it and not the war on Iraq.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thuggo
And I guess me and nearly 60 million others are dumbasses for voting for "failure of a president named Bush". /shrug
Whatever the case, I don't work for Kerry, so I'm happy.
Glad thats finally cleared up! =DQuote:
And I guess me and nearly 60 million others are dumbasses for voting for "failure of a president named Bush".
Well thanks, that's why I pay my taxes. It doesn't mean your opinion is somehow more valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
I notice you compeltely ignored the maps, links, and facts I posted. But I do like the "We maybe dumb but there's more of us" slant to your post. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
You said that your liberal state had it's head up it's ass not exactly a flattering endorsement of the other side. She can't comment about US politics? So you don't ever comment about foreign politics or their leaders? Nothing about France? Nothing about Russia or the character of their leaders?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elidroth
Of course I do. Everyone does. I don't recall ever calling their people a bunch of idiots for voting their beliefs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thuggo
But you did say the people in your state had their head up their ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elidroth
Hitler was driven by nationalism and racial issues that said German's were the superior race and that everyone else should die....more or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elidroth
What was one of the motivating factor's he used to convince his people he was doing the right thing? Fear of being attacked.
Bush is driven by nationalism and greed issues that state the United States is and should be THE military and economic power.
What was one of the motivating factor's he used to convince his people he was doing the right thing? Fear of being attacked.
And both used the military to advance their beliefs.
I think you can see how they are making the comparison.
I personally think one of the smarter things the Republicans did, in terms of strategy, was to ensure that the Gay Marriage props were on this ballot.
He's a skirt wearin' flip flopper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thuggo
And by the way....please don't forget the election isn't technically over yet until every last vote is counted. Three states have yet to make the final call.
No, but it helped Bush get elected. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thuggo
And what I was talking about with the WMDs was this: if we were in Iraq's shoes and had inspectors coming to our country looking for nuclear weapons, we'd easily be able to hide them and they could search for years and never find any. I'm well aware of where the US's storage facilities are and where the nuclear firing sites are. We have no reason to hide them because we are under the jaded opinion that we will never be attacked in our own country, which made 9/11 such a slap in the face of the general public. Ollie North mentioned Bin Laden many years ago as a severe threat to the nation. At the time, no one took it seriously enough.Quote:
I notice you compeltely ignored the maps, links, and facts I posted. But I do like the "We maybe dumb but there's more of us" slant to your post. Thanks.
Hi Kane! You are wrong Eli. Let me go look it up. The euro is stronger than the US dollar atm. I think Dean hit on something though. Besides that screech that sounded like he sat no his balls, Dean did make a valid point at one time. He said i am trying to get that gun carrying pick up truck driving southern male white vote. Something to that effect.
The south is mainly about God, Guns and Gays. Democrats have done poorly in the south in federal elections ever since LBJ gave civil rights to the blacks. How dare those federals free our blacks again!
If we could just integrate a DNA into those backwoods hick fucks we would be doing alot better. Republican party would crumble. Hoho.
Oh, and I wasn't saying Tilea was wrong. It's a war and casualties are expected. Tragic? Yes. I hate to see it happen. But the arguement made it sound like our ineptitude as a military/president was the cause of it, and the 2 obscure references weren't enough to validate that claim.
Hey Qeadiin!Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaediin
And I don't know what part of the south you lived in but I don't ever recall seeing a gay presence. There's too much hate in the south to be openly gay (with the exception of Florida and certain parts of Atlanta). Hell, half the south can get over racial hatred. You think they can accept gays? :eek:
It's guns, God and NASCAR!
he meant hate/fear of gay
You're absolutely correct. I lived in the south for 22 years. Now that I've been away for quite some time, it amazes me when I visit my folks just how backwoods people's beliefs and views are there. The attitudes and culture haven't changed at all in many years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonskils
i purpose this
How many "Civilians" have been killed, that actually were not civilians at all?
Any U.S. Military member that intentionally kills an unarmed civilian would be brought up on charges under the UCMJ(uniform code of military justice).
I like that Lonskils, makes sense.
In Jesusland they can make it illegal to be gay, not teach evolution in schools, make slavery legal again, only let rich white men vote, hand out a machine gun to everyone the day they are born, put a copy of the 10 commandments in every courthouse, burn anyone that isn't Christian, and let Rupert Murdoch control the only news tv channel people are allowed to watch.
Sounds like George W. Bush's America to me. :)
hehe :o
Lons got it. Sorry didnt make that clearer. Didnt mean a majority of the south was gay. The hate there is freakin thick in parts though.
Some of my family is from Texas around Houston. They belonged to the KKK at one point or still do...not real sure. They arent the gun toting inbreds you would picture. My cousin is a teacher and her husband is a engineer for the state of Texas DoT. They wouldnt talk to me when i brought my wife to a family reunion a few years ago. Since some of ya might not know my wife is Korean. She was pregnant at the time and the looks i got could have killed~. They havent spoken to me since then actually. Think after all these years that alot of hatred would have watered down a bit...perhaps it has though. I dont live in the south so i wouldnt know=o.
What's sad is the majority of the population would probably see nothing wrong with this. Well, besides the slavery thing. BUT IF THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT THEY CAN JUST GO TO THE UNITED STATES OF CANADA BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT EM HERE ANYWAY AM I RITE ELI??Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrith
You forgot spring football and football season. The Bear would surely be disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
Easy, there big guy....less then 10% of the population could afford a slave much less thought it was right. But you can't fight money when you ain't got none. Slavery or no slavery, it didn't matter much as it didn't affect the average Southerner. Slavery wasn't even in the Top 10 issues the South had with you damn yankee bastards. You had your chance to get rid of us 140 some odd years ago, now it's bitch moan whine...Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaediin
And what most Southerners haven't figured out is that Bush is a yankee son of a damn yankee carpetbagger.
Joking Joking....sorta...
he is a damn yankee though.
I dont care for bush, i personally think hes a moron and cant stand him. Kerry flip flops over his breakfast cereal, not someone i want in charge. Both candidates were poor, im eagerly awaiting 2008 elections cause hopefully we will have at least 1 good candidate when 2 new people run for president.
That being said, the Hitler comment was the most ignorant fucking shit ive ever heard in my gdamn life. Millions of jews were executed by this man, and millions more were killed by the war he started. There are countless of other men from all over the world that were in power of countries that ordered executions of 500,000 or more people. Saddam himself had 500,000 or more put to death, yet hes a saint compared to Bush, sorry but the comparison dont exist no matter how you try and fucking slice it, and if you honestly believe hes the worse thing to come along since Hitler you are a ignorant fucking cunt.
Hate Bush for all i care, call him a moron, point and laugh and be upset he was elected go for it dont bother me, but compare the man to hitler and say he is the worse thing since Hitler and ima call you out for being a ignorant fucking cunt.
Bush essentialy used every stance guaranteed to get a vote. He doesn't care about the issues. He played the game to win to further the goals of the rich. He used this country's homophobia, religion, short sighted tax cuts, and fear of terrorism against us.
Well played, Mr. President.
I'm aware the Euro is worth more than the dollar. Just after 9/11, the Euro was worth 1.61 US dollars. Currently it's at about 1.27 US dollars per Euro. This is the strongest the US dollar has been against the Euro in over 3 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaediin
Get a clue Kaneis. The bomb that was dropped on Canadian troops did not go astray. It hit it's target. It's target WAS the Canadian troops. If you were "there" you should already know this. Get it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
And as for "only" shooting down one coalition plane. Iraq didn't HAVE any planes TO shoot down so uhhh... it's more that just a little oversight don't you think?
Good job voting for Bush, glad to hear you think it's acceptable to have a half whit that just caused the murders of 100,000 Iraqi's as your president. Enjoy however many needless deaths he causes within the next 4 years, cause it's partly on your hands.
Grats on not coming close to what I was saying. I was commenting on people saying they were leaving the country because of Bush getting re-elected. If your reaction to this is to pick up and run.. BUH BYE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarissa
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Originally Posted by Qaediin
Jeff Gordon's gay!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
Actually, that's exactly what I'm saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneis
You're going to argue Bush's ineptitude? He lied about the reasons for invading Iraq. There were no WMD, there were no ties to Al Queda. The FBI knew this. Bush didn't care, he wanted to go anyways so he lied.
Shortly after the Bush administration went into office, Colin Powell said publically on TV that Iraq did not posess WMD and that they were not a threat. Then he changed his mind out of the blue? Don't you think someone wouldn't do a total turn around unless they were absolutely right? So where are these WMD? Where are these mystery mobile trucks pumping out chemical weapons? Oh yeah, they never existed.
And yes, I'm sorry to say but it is ineptitude that has lead to the casualties in Iraq. You can find a couple thousand "acceptable" if you want, but 100,000? Sorry but that's ineptitude at it's glorified best.
Thuggo your such a twat. Its F.A.G. - Fans Against Gordon.
Well, they did send 125 combat planes to Iran during the first go around...for safe keeping. Not sure who "owns" them now though. But yes, they didn;t launch any aircraft this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilea
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Originally Posted by BurnemWizfyre