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rofl Vidle...Im laughing my ass off :D
Cliques... haha. Those are what you call friends buddy, they like to hang out and do stuff together. Cliques.... hahaha.... I still talk to my whole "clique"Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidmer
Exploited Yelinak. Woopy, best thing I've ever done in EverQuest. I loved it. Don't be jealous you didn't think of it first. Along with Sachiiel, Famor, Orrlaar, Felh, and Shindar. Don't you hate us all? Awwww... if it was so horrible why didn't we all get booted?
Nice try, Hoss was nothing on Druzzil Ro until a bunch of Seekers joined. Hoss was going no where. They didn't even want to kill Trakanon, so if you're talking about on another server I don't care. Hoss was not uber on Druzzil Ro until after Andaas and I joined.
Oh you're in Hoss too now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleepie
I'll let Shindar know!
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Originally Posted by Andriana Duskrose
OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T MEAN ANDAAS... I bet you Andaas is only doing it because the guild wants to do it, DUH.
Andaas has never had a problem with me having access from what I know, in fact I've talked to him a few times in IM's even. I don't think he *personally* ives a shit.
I fear for the drama gnome. :(
The only problem I have with it, is people post things about their life, funny links, computer information, info about new video games, things that have NOTHING to do with EVERQUEST AND HOSS in relation. It is just that some Hoss and ex-Hoss members prefer to post in private forums with that information. Yet they do not get reprimanded for posting that there, even though it has nothing to do with the current state of Hoss as a guild in Everquest, nothing to do with today's raid.
People are mad, and are going to be mad, because they were told they would have access to these forums even after they sold. All of a sudden a year after you were promised you'd still have access it disappears, expect people to get mad. You have a right to disagree, but you have to let some people vent.
Some of you people dont even know why some people sold their accounts. What if you couldn't quit the game, and it was ruining your life? If you cancelled your account, you'd just resubscribe. Delete your character, petition for it back. Give it away to a friend (which I tried to do, all said no), you'd eventually ask for it back. If you sold, not to use Hoss, I was on nearly everyday for 2 years in Hoss, but so you wouldnt be able to play again, is it such a crime? To some of you, yes. Fixing your life, and not playing a video game is such a crime. It should piss some people off when people talk about things they know nothing about.
If anyone feels used by what I did, I have this to say. Either you weren't in the guild when I quit (which means you never helped me and I never helped you), you shouldn't feel used, nothing I did reflected you at all, except maybe helping to pave the way for Hoss to the point where you joined. If you were in the guild, know that I rarely did quests (I think 1, and I did it with my friends). But I helped a shitload of people and their twinks for quests, keys, flags, etc. when they weren't able to do it by themselves, with nothing wanted in return. I also supplied many people who came back from retirement with gear, with nothing in return, I didn't even ask for it back when they were done. I was there to help and have fun, not use you. Get a grip and get some perspective.
You are counterproductive on most attempts at arguing with the people who feel robbed. It just shows how stubborn some of you are. Do you feel intimidated by me? Do I bother you? I sure hope not, and if I do, you have other problems than me having private access.
I just have to say that a retired Hoss / ebayed Hoss forum, would be stupid, unless people were told to post all non-present day-eq related things in that forum. I just don't see that happening. It'd also be more productive to reprimand people who post non-related stuff in the private forums, as in my computer doesnt work and other things. I'm not making demands, its just a suggestion.
If I bought back my account, would I have access? Would it make a difference? Would anything be changed, except me wasting money? I really don't think so. This argument is somewhat relevant, too, as there have been multiple people who have been Hoss, sold their accounts, and bought them back and rejoined Hoss, and have gone inactive again, and still have access.
Reply how you wish, its just my opinion, but take cheap shots on me, when I'm not doing such to you, and your opinion means nothing.
Finally, with this happening, I don't feel welcome anymore.
LOL he's known for a while actually but feel free to say hi to Matt :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drakky
The decision was in the best interest of Hoss as an active EverQuest guild. It discourages ebaying by delivering a drawback and will over time prove to strengthen the guild. Those who have ebayed do not have to deal with how the guild is doing or about the problems faced today. I preferr logic and fairness to prejudice and favoritism. Even more then that, I preferr the preservation and continued supreamacy of Hoss over catering to those who are gone.
i find it humorous how argonah instanly clicks with drakky
I can see your point. However I was told that my only way back into Hoss was by re-obtaining my toon and that there would have been no issue, retagging and board access. However that isn't/wasn't an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dharrk
It wouldn't be wasting money if you re-purchased your investment and wanted to get back into things.
(If anyone re-purchased, I am sure a stink would arise somewhere about retagging. Politics are everywhere.)
My understanding after explained to me is this; if you do not currently own the toon then you lose the access and can not rejoin Hoss with any other toon period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dharrk
If you curently own your toon then being inactive is irrelevant to the current topic and you would still have access.
Someone that knows the rules correct me if I am wrong..
All some of us are saying is that these drawbacks did not exist when our decisions were made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kattoo Tacit
Reminds me of whatever the thing is called where "you can't be convicted of a crime if when you commited the crime it wasn't against the law." Issue a "from now on" law, its just as effective. As it applys to everyone currently playing. Those before this new law weren't informed, the ones who do it now are. Its not playing favorites, its playing fair.
All I am doing is offering my plea. I am not "dissing" anyone or making demands.
I'm sure all of you current players would be upset, if you had to quit, and Andaas had personally told you that you would be able to keep access, and then he takes it away. I have no beef with Andaas, I just have a beef with what has happened, and logically so.
I am not involved in current Hoss issues, nor am I asking to be. I told you why I wanted access.
I just hope you guys tell the next person who decides to retire that "they are always Hoss, unless they sell their account." No one told me that, and I never thought it would be so.
And I am looking out for Hoss, I was suggesting that maybe non EQ related things be posted elsewhere than the private forum, it wouldn't distract anyone from the goal of Hoss succeeding in EQ.
If you expect any of us people who lost access not to be upset, that promises were broken that rules were newly made that including people that never knew those rules would be created, then you my friends, aren't even worth my time. Whether you have a case or not, you can empathize a bit.
This discussion is pointless. I can't believe how some of you are acting over a fucking video game.
dharrk you know your after all the leet secrets we talk about in there! :p :p
Well, shit. There goes my argument. Last time I tell you a secret!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Widespreadd Panic
Anyways.
I still cry ex post facto.
Not to mention, if anyone wants to ebay, I doubt losing messageboard access will stop them. Messageboard access will never make or break a guild. You'd be crazy to think so. Nothing can stop it. Calm down.
Not to mention I still see people who sold their accounts show up with a red font. (aka Guild Member color)
Call that one fair?
Personally, arguing over something like a video game was always the funniest thing to me. I did it, even though I knew I shouldn't. However, banning ebayed members from the private forums is nothing really dramatic. The private forum doesn't exactly contain that many secrets. Plus, there's this general forum that could take a lot more use. Saying you wouldn't wear a Hoss guildtag in any other game is silly, what if all your good friends decided to? Just get over it, this game is in your past, no need to dreg up ill feelings toward former guildmates. Move on. We are, afterall, at the end of EQ's life for most, and with EQ2 and WoW in the future, we should perhaps look forward to meeting up again in these new worlds, while cherishing the memories we have from this one.
If you quit, then ebayed.. why would you still want access to something you wanted to get away from anyways? (not including friends etc, but EQ itself) Nothing in the private forums concerns you or your opinions anymore. You stepped away from the game. I don't see why people are fussing about it.
Oh and for the people who needed the cash, yeah ok..still shouldn't be upset. Hoss doesn't concern you anymore.
Please let me know who, I can fix that pretty easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dharrk
I certainly can't remember or know of every person who quit and then sold their character months later. And also please try to remember, that people who sold or gave their characters to someone else in the guild are still granted access.
Reading a board is a lot different from playing a game. I do it sparingly in free time and don't feel compelled to read. No addiction there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailie
Please start reading the posts, not assuming their content. I dont care about the game anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailie
Easy to not see what people are fussing about when you haven't been offended. I care about being told one thing and then another happening, you'd do the same if it happened to you. Look up ex post facto. I only wanted access to that forum for its NON EQ stuff. Funny eh, how the private forum has non-EQ related stuff on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailie
Take any stance you want on it, its your opinion, but don't be so close minded, we already explained why we wanted access.
Plain and simple, some people are offended. What do you do when you get offended? Do you sit there and take it? I don't.
I want access back, but its what I want. I'm not going to ask for it. My opinion means nothing. I can accept that. But I won't stop defending the fact I think its wrong. Even if it solves nothing. Because I'm stubborn and I've been offended.
I really don't feel like naming names. Upon further thinking, I wouldn't want to mess up anyone elses access as I feel it was wrong for it to happen to myself. Spending any time helping a cause I'm against is counterproductive. Just letting Hoss know that their job isn't complete. But then again, "Hoss doesn't concern me anymore." So I'll just mind my own business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andaas
To some of you:
It's funny how so many Hoss members get offended by jokes or stupid things, but when someone else gets offended they are like "omg why are you even bothering, you're opinion is so stupid." You ask for respect and then not give it back. I don't care if I sold my account that I put two years of Hoss into or not. You are no better than me.
I'd like one of you paladins to look into what we are saying, and serious about it. Not focus on you feel that people who quit will sway people into quitting. Ever think that a goodbye post does just as much as a goodbye + I'm selling post. Its the quitting part, not the ebaying part. That's an after thought. It'd be more effective just not allowing people to post goodbye posts. Delete them on site. Just let them appear MIA, would be more effective.
Not to mention EQ is winding to an end and WoW, CoH, etc. are getting people off EQ. Why don't you ban WoW or CoH posts in the private forums.
Anyone care to debate that point? Let's be friendly. I'm just trying to help, I'd love your inputs on my thoughts. If need be, AIM, PM, or ICQ me. Although, I'd prefer here.
*EDIT*
Also curious, what is the difference between deleting all your characters, cancelling your account to an unrecoverable point, and selling them? Both of them get rid of permanently (after a period of time) coming back to Hoss. The cases have the same result, but one sends you to hell? Doesn't make sense.
Personally, i dont give 2 shits either way. If any area from these boards i would care about one way or the other is the Recruiting where we talk about the new recruits and such, id prefer yall not have acess to that, as we seem to have problems with leaks with or with out you, it would only lessen w/out you so thats the only reason id be for that. All you bitching should at least remember me, and personally i dont care one way or the other about the whole ordeal.