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It's strange how Tilea refuses loot from time to time, even if said loot will rot otherwise. Spread your bullshit elsewhere.

It's strange that Tilea would leave ML because she didn't want to Raid, yet a couple weeks later she joins Hoss, known and famous for its Raid Schedule.

Bullshit? I think not.

Bullshit!

Maybe she had to come up with an excuse to leave ML!

Neuan, out of respect for Selice, I will not rip into on a public board like this.

However, when you come on to our boards and post blatent lies, I will tell you what to do. Get off our boards, and go post your Pro-mythic bullshit full of lies elsewhere.

Tilea is not about loot. I can assure you that 100%. Your "There has been only 1 member that has left mythic over loot" is bullshit as well. Infact about 10 members left in mass because they had merged with VH and did not feel like a family anymore which is what Mythic legion is supposed to be (haha maybe the mob). There have been others as well. I will admit full well that I left mythic IN PART because of loot. Everyone on this server pretty much knows my story.

Anyway I could go on forever about how much of an ass I think you are, you probably think the same of me. I do not care. Do not, however, post on here with some bullshit lies and trash the names of our members with those lies.

Isnt it funny how they dont have a board up so others wont come and talk trash about their guild? Yet every day they visit other guild boards to talk trash about them. They are doing the exact same thing they hate people doing on their boards. Ironic?

Mitsy

Rhedd,

Relax. :) Take a deep breath. :)

Btw...Lies are only Lies if they don't fit in your perception of Reality.

Otherwise they're facts.

Neuan, I don't know you.. but I can say you obviously don't know Tilea. Not only does she refuse almost all items, but she has even posted asking the guild to stop trying to force stuff on her. I might have paid some attention to your argument if it wasn't so blatantly false.

Oh and btw.. if you guys have anymore like Tilea we'd be happy to take them off your hands =D

Neuan, you have no dick sir.

I could be wrong.

Maybe this isn't the same Tilea that was in ML. Accounts change Hands so often these days...who's to say.

OR...something happened. Maybe ML really is that evil and oppressive and brings out the worst in people, and only by leaving ML do they blossom into the earnest and valued members of another Guild.

I bet that's it.

:D

Wo-ah

I don't know about you guys, but I'm downright intimidated by that confident, slightly cocky way he presents his arguments. It spells backoff with a capital B buddy, and I suggest you all be very af-raid!

or, perhaps you're just a troll.

Get the fuck off our boards and stay off.

omfg you made amb cuss ~

wtg

Rhedd, I gave you your dream item almost two years ago, remember what it was? (=

Why so down on Trolls Amb? :(

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Oh and btw.. if you guys have anymore like Tilea we'd be happy to take them off your hands =D

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No shit.

This is from Tilea's post on our private board after declining a primal warsword: (With apologies to Tilea, I hope she doesn't mind me posting this =p)

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If you know me by now you know I don't play this game for item upgrades, and in fact I don't care about them to the point where I prefer to not get them.

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Pardon me while I open the window, so that your argument may exeunt .

P.S. Perhaps, coming from a person with some tact, "I don't want to Raid all the time." could be translated as "I don't want to raid with you all the time."

lol...kinda like "we should see other people"...instead of each other....



#1 board troll

ROFL HAHAHAHA I can't believe some retard just accused me of leaving ML over loot. That is THE funniest damn thing I've heard in a long time. Neuan, if you think I was even IN ML for loot, never mind left because of it, then you are oblivious, and should have taken some time to get to know me. Wanna know why I REALLY left ML? And not because of the "political" reason that Baramos left on the ML board either. The REAL reason:

I never WANTED to be in ML. When VH merged with ML I was the one and only officer who blatantly opposed the merger. I told everyone exactly what would happen to the type of guild VH was, if we merged with ML. However my voice was the minority so we merged. I was the one who ended up being right, and a lot of former VH's left ML because of the exact reasons I predicted. The only reason I bothered going with the merger at all was because Azamien was my friend, and he talked me into it.

Now I don't regret joining ML, because I made a lot of great friends. Here's the real reason I left: I had NO confidence in the competance of the guilds leadership. Specificly, Baramos Hali and Rohaise. Want more specific examples?

ML ninja'ing and going out of rotation on ST key dragons because they were under the -incorrect- impression that other guilds were trying to keep them out.

Want another damned good reason? People like Stosh. People in ML who ass kiss their way into the "in crowd" and then ignore anyone that they feel is now below their newly appointed station. Neuan, did you have any idea that numerous ML members sent emails to Baramos, asking to have Stosh kicked out of the guild? Of course you didn't, Baramos hides that kind of information from people. Needless to say though, despite the fact that very long standing, well respected members of ML bruoght Stosh's ass kissing, two faced problem to Baramoses attention, no way in hell was Bara going to get rid of one of his favorite toadies. So Bara's response is that EVERYONE is wrong about Stosh, and he backs up his little ass kisser. Think I'm exagerating about Stosh? Maybe you never got to know him, either.

Want another damned good reason for why I left ML? How's about this?

One Day ML kills Phara Dar, server first! and there was much rejoicing. Yay! So, right afterwords, our friendly neighbourhood officers (bara and rohaise, go figure) get the impression that every VP capable guild is now making a massive push to get into VP often, just because ML took down PD. That's laughable to begin with, but yeah they really did believe that. Misconceptions aside, Baramos decides to take a poll. The poll asks "How often do you want to go to VP?" Now the MASS majority of ML says once per month. Somewhere around 75 percent of the guild, in fact. So you'd think that 75 percent of the guild has a say in things, right? HAHA nope, sorry this is ML we're talking about. Baramos, for some reason obsessed with VP (even though Hoss and Vindi are already farming the hell uot of ntov for items a million times better) doesn't like the once a month idea. He proposes 3 times every 2 months. People agree, and everyone's happy.

One frigging week later, Baramos blows the poll off all together and tells everyone "We're going every weekend, attendance is mandatory". So, even though the overwhelming majority of the guild voices their opinion, they get totally ignored, just because the "core" officers didn't like the opinion. That was the last straw in a pile of straws that just kept getting bigger and bigger, so I left. Never made a better decision in my 3 years of EQ.

Neuan, you have any idea how many tells I got from my ML friends saying things like, "Stuck in VP yet again... been here for 8 hours...". People were made miserable every weekend because Baramos wanted it that way. Sure I'm sure some people were happy to go often, but those are the people who were in it for loot, NOT me. The funniest part was that they claimed "We need to monopolize VP while we still can, before Hoss and Vindi etc start coming in." Hoss hasn't been to VP since then, ever. Has Vindi? I think they went once out of boredom. ML was the LAST ntov capable guild to actually get anything done there, and it was because of poor leadership decisions.

Yeah my attitude in ML sucked. I hated going to raids, hated doing exp. Gee I wonder if it's because I hated being in the guild? If it wasn't for the great friends I've made in ML I would have left long before that. But there came a point where even friendship wasn't worth it, so I left. Besides those people are still my friends. You have a pretty large chip on your shoulder regarding Hoss, Neuan.. and you don't even play the game anymore? Seek theorapy.

Bara tried to pressure me into levelling but I refused to do it. Hell he tried to rpessure me into lots of things but I didn't do it. I did every single one of them for Hoss though. What does that tell you? Keep in mind this has NOTHING to do with ML's members. I just strongly dislike (some of) the officers. Selice and quint being the rare exceptions. It's too bad Harthek retired as an officer, he might have been able to turn things around.

As for loot specificly, that's a laughable accusation. I don't give a rats ass about loot. Hell I just upgraded my orc fang earring to a sarnak earring of station about a month ago. Passed up multiple ntov items because I just don't care to get them. Everyone in Hoss is well aware of this fact. You, Neuan, are nothing short of ignorant.

There you go, that's why I left ML. Anyone who thinks I left because of anything loot oriented can all gather up in a nice, neat orderly line, and take turns kissing my ass. You can be first in line, Neuan.

Can i be second pleaase= )


*puts some chap stick on and lines up*

wow...you just got owned Neuan. Thx, drive thru.

Thanks chance, my "you dont have a dick sir" thing was pretty good.

Always room in line for you, Rhedd ;)

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Originally posted by Lola
P.S. Perhaps, coming from a person with some tact, "I don't want to Raid all the time." could be translated as "I don't want to raid with you all the time."

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Can you cay, BINGO!? :)

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Originally posted by Neuan Nyagaleth
OR...something happened. Maybe ML really is that evil and oppressive and brings out the worst in people, and only by leaving ML do they blossom into the earnest and valued members of another Guild.

I bet that's it.

:D

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Oh it is! Or have you forgotten the glimmer of PHAT LEWT that caused you and Selice to disband Aftemath without notice to join ML. That caused you to draw up a list of those members who were elite enough to join ML (snicker) and left the other HALF of the guild out to dry. And to add insult to injury your lame ass explanation was extremely insulting to those not "chosen." Thats the kind of material ML feeds on and the people it holds dear. I thank Tunare I was one of the "losers," cause you know what? I am a damn good druid. And not only that I'm in HOSS, not some chump zerg guild that prides itself on lagging zones, screwing over its own members, and pretentions of being "uber" when there is absolutely nothing uber about them.

So Neuan, go back to your little pyramid scheming guild and make sure you satify Selice's phat lewt whoreishness.

Baroness Semele Mooncaller
Heirophant of Tunare
HOSS


P.S. Tilea is the win!

/hug Tilea :cool:

Nice thread :)

Makes me remember when Baramos gor first mage epic on the server..
didnt wanna camp the Quillmane cloak by himself so he traded one of MLs manarobes and a PoA crown for it with Sphinco...
They didnt have one of the crowns in guildbank though so they took him up to air a few weeks later to get him one...

You go Tilea WOW!! Guess Neuan has about two things to say right about now... Jack and shit, and jack just left town. =) ( I love that line)

Mitsy

Nice feeding frenzy you have going here.

I normally don't post in response to this kind of nonsense. The energy being spent here hating, in context of RL, or even in the context of game life, isn't worth it.

Tilea brought up something, though, with regard to Stosh and I want to say something because I'm fairly certain Stosh won't.

BTW, I have no issues with Tilea. I liked her as a member of ML, for the most part, and was only frustrated by her continued refusal to level, or come to raids that other active members were required to attend. It's true, she didn't want to join ML in the first place, but she joined, then left, then asked to join again. In my mind, particularly after joining the second time, she was making, implicitly, a statement that she would adhere to the same standards of participation everyone else did. I generally liked her personality, and guildsay banter, and humor, however. No hard feelings, on my part.

This Stosh thing, however, bothers me. As an officer or GL of Mythic, I'm privy to a lot of the fusses and frictions that members get involved in. People send me emails saying gee Bara, so-and-so did this or that, and sometimes I'm asked or expected to get involved in some way to help mediate or defuse problems or tensions. Oftentimes, due to tempers, or just immaturity, people will say things or write things or do things they later regret.

The "case" of Stosh was no different. Stosh certainly isn't what you painted him to be, Tilea. He's a grown man, a professional, and works hard and contributes daily to the guild in more ways than merely showing up to guild events and "wooting" when the MOB of the day is killed. Some of our members unfairly, in a sophomoric attack on him, emailed me with a list of "transgressions" hoping to get him kicked out merely on the weight of their email.

Did I refuse to kick him out? Yup. Did I not reveal to the guild that this took place and publicly air a bunch of meaningless tripe? It is true, I didn't. No one's business. If I aired or talked about every single petty issue that came up in the course of running the guild from month-to-month, our board would resemble the Vindication public BB, which I discourage.

Tilea, you might be interested to know that there was an effort to get you removed from ML a couple of times, too, on the basis of your refusal to participate, etc. You can choose to believe or disbelieve that I acted on your behalf as I did on Stosh's.

While I'm here, let me speak to this "ML loot" business you all find so fascinating. ML has a "decision-based" loot distribution system. We keep records of attendance in an online database, much like DKP, but we feel that DKP doesn't tell the whole story, and that DKP also creates a cycle of focus on points for loot and loot for points, taking the focus away from where we feel the real fun is - moving forward as a guild. If we were pure DKP, with my 290 days played, and my attendance to events, I'd be as decked out as a Hoss caster, I expect. *chuckle*

I do think DKP can be made to work, but certainly not at this point in ML's cycle, and the cycle in EQ.

Is our system fair? We think so. We have a guild that's been around for 2 1/2 years, and no real complaints, except from disgruntled ex-members.

Those of you who make accusations about "ML O's getting all the loot" would end up finding is a pretty even distribution of "goodies" from the game, weighted towards those who put more time in, or to the newer members who come in and do particularly well, because their old guild didn't have access to the higher areas in the game.

In the end, though, I think all this thrashing about "what Hoss does" or "what ML said" or the way we do things, is fairly ridiculous. Take a step back and read this stuff from the perspective of someone on another server, say, and you get an idea how absurd it is.

We have maybe a year left playing this game. Maybe less, I don't know.

I think we should put down the pickaxes on these boards. Is it really any fun for anyone?

Bara

P.S. - The manarobe you speak of, Stitz (whoever you are) was not a guild manarobe. We have no such thing. It was my own possession. In ML, once you receive an item, it is yours to do with as you please. (Nope.. you're right. I didn't want to camp the horse. Seemed a fair trade to me. Ok with you? =) )

"BTW, I have no issues with Tilea. I liked her as a member of ML, for the most part, and was only frustrated by her continued refusal to level, or come to raids that other active members were required to attend."

Let's count the lies in just one paragraph, shall we? Lie number 1:

""BTW, I have no issues with Tilea. I liked her as a member of ML"

My last words to you were this: My leaving ML is your loss, not mine. I'm a better person that a control freak like you will ever be.

Your last words to me were this: Good, I'm glad to be rid of you.

So which is it? Glad to be rid of me, or you liked me as a member? Hmmm...

"was only frustrated by her continued refusal to level, or come to raids that other active members were required to attend"

Yep. Like I said in my post to Neuan. My attitude sucked. I hated being in ML and it showed. So? As for the active members being required to attend part, that craks me up the most. ESPECIALLY since we're talking about Stosh. How long did Stosh skip guild raids for, Bara? An entire month was it? Ahh yeah it was. For a month he sat in VL and got pleveled to 60 by Ternada, never once attending any single guild raid, while everyone else less than level 60 was showing up. What made him so special, so exempt? Guess I never puckered up hard enough?

Fact is this, Bara. You never liked me. I never liked you. Let's not sugar coat anything now.

Thanks, Tilea. =)

(I suppose I should consider my self pwned now.)

Bara

PS - You're wrong about liking you. I like you fine, or I wouldn't have invited you to Mythic Legion, twice. You seem to have very strong feelings about ML. I'm glad you're enjoying Hoss.

*hears wedding bells*

well blow me down I believe i'm becoming a board troll :mad:

Go back and reread my post, I changed it :p

Tilea, the fact that, at that moment, I was glad to be rid of you was no indication that "I didn't like you." (See above about saying things in the heat of the moment.)

There are folks that I'm quite good friends with out-of-guild, that I wouldn't want in ML for various reasons.

I'm not saying that I've ever been "good friends" with you, but I enjoyed talking to you in guildsay, and in tells.

When you approached me about joining ML the second time, after you'd joined, I thought it was an amicable reunion of you to the guild, and us, too.

We seemed friendly.

Maybe it was a one-way street. Doesn't matter.

I think it's true what you say, that you just didn't want to join ML in the first place, it always grated you, and ML management grated you, and you just weren't having fun. Bad fit. I'd been there, and it's why Mythic was born.

Making a guild is as simple as getting together with folks you like and admire and who like and admire you. This is why I created Mythic. I invited folks I liked and admired. You didn't feel the same about me? Not the first time, I can assure you.

We have a good thing going, generally, in ML.

You and Hoss have a good thing going.

It's fun.

Game is about fun.

I still like you just fine, though. I don't hold grudges, as a rule. I see no reason to hold one with you.

Bara

Baramos is my good friend.

Nod. Sirensa and I go wayyyy back. She sends me *giggle* tells every night. =)

BTW, I have to go back to work now, and stop clicking refresh like a crackwhore.

Are you a Baramos h4t3r? Get in line!

You can h4t3 me online, after 5 PM PST, daily.

Bara

If we were a red server... Baramos would be on rotation =P

Course... so would a lot of ML officers.

Probably hoss officers too.

I know I would camp the Thanatoz spawn as well.

Requesting to be added to the Dlgoth rotation.


Hate the players - not the game!!

Err...

Hate the game AND the players.

*click*

*click click*

dammit...

omfg! sirensa has 1000 posts and 4 dancing stars!!!!


I want dancing stars! =(

Those dancing stars are ownage.

Bara your going to break your mouse now stop refreshing =\


As far as the hole mythic legion loot system, well... I do not think it is right. Bara does and so do a majority of mythic legion. We will leave it at that.

I would like to point out Bara that there have been more complaints about loot than just X Members. We both know it =)

I do not need to go into detail. I don't hate bara he knows that. I respect him. I do, however, disagree with the way Mythic Legion is run.

Thats old news, lets discuss a more pressing topic.

Why are dorfs the most beautiful creatures on norrath?

Perhaps we should discuss!

Would I get some sort of kill points for NOT healing Thanatoz?

Cause, well, would be hard for me to take him down, but, like, I could help.

And stuff..

'Gryfalia tells you 'Thanatoz is currently in DN at the first bug trap, he seems ready to be hit'.

Gryfalia