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Guys seriously...Yes we have a list of loot. It works well for us. As far as dream items, Tirs/vad/tern has not had ONE listed since 2000....This was a first. And whoever the other guy is...once a item is received from the 'list' you cant just run and add another. We do have rules.
JESUS FUCK CAN I FUCKING FLAME SOMEONE PLEASE FUCK
what happens if Person A's dream item drops within the alloted dream item list time, and then when it refreshes Person B still hasn't gotten his. It goes like this right. Person A selects a new one, and Person B has the oppurtunity to keep his current one or change to a new one. With people making the same item on their list and it being incredibly rare, wont person B get screwed over. I'd tend to think this would cause people not to pick once a 3 month items on their list in fear of not getting any dream item in that time.
This isn't directed at anything that happened, I am just generalizing. Sounds flawed to me, or am I wrong in my logic?
FU EOMER GO DIE AND STAY THERE :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Because people see a huge guild with a ton of members being used by the officers/coremembers. And the people don't even seem to realize they are being used.Quote:
Welp, I dont quite understand why everyone cares so much how loot is distributed in ML
I have friends in ML, of course I care. I don't like when my friends are being used, why shouldn't I care?
/Aedail
Bullshit, the real reason people talk shit about their loot system is in hopes of fucking with their members minds to make them think what you are saying is true. Your basicly playing these mind games so maybe, just maybe you can break down their members spirits and get them to quit ML. Not that you or Vindi would take them into your guild, but maybe a few.Quote:
I have friends in ML, of course I care. I don't like when my friends are being used, why shouldn't I care?
I talked to some ML people about their loot system before, it seems pretty fair. They reset their dream item list every 3 months or something, if you just happend to pick a VERY rare item for your dream item, then its just luck if it drops.
I just think its quite funny that Hoss and Vindication have public boards and ML doesn't. I guess it makes you guys feel very important when all the newbies on the server can come here and view your opinions.
Yah that's it, its an elaborate plan! Here's the deal. There's certain top end gear that you see going again and again to officers, while members get the pick-of-the-litter. Is it sacrifice to give you what I don't want? No.
Thing I love about Hoss is how much sacrifice I've seen our officers do. I don't load up our front newspage update after update and see the best rare 1st-evers going to officers. And that's cool.
And wth is up with this dude using ranoogs name and adding a G? wow liek cool woah
Board (bored) trolls are funny sometimes. The anonymity to post an OPINION makes them feel special. For instance, notice how this moron tells us...
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I talked to some ML people about their loot system before, it seems pretty fair. They reset their dream item list every 3 months or something, if you just happend to pick a VERY rare item for your dream item, then its just luck if it drops.
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So what if you talked to people in ML? We all have friends in ML of one type or another. I have heard complaints just as you have heard that it is fair. What's your point? And if they reset their "dream item list" every 3 months, what does that do for the people who haven't gotten anything yet?
If you have 100 people in a guild, and 25 of them want ***edit*** the same item from ToV, you have to have successfully raided that zone 25 times and that item dropped every time for them all to get one. Barring patches, 25 x 7 day respawn (assuming you got ToV every spawn) = 175 days = 6 months. So my one dream item has the MINIMUM potential to take 6 months to get. Wow. I'm all a glow that in half a year (yet again assuming we got all the spawns) that I'd get my dream item. Now let's say we had a patch every week. You are still looking at 3 months to get *1* item. Yay.
Get a clue, get a life and post under your game name you panty waste piece of dog shit. Have a nice day.
-Fizzy
The reseting of the dream item list is new since i left ml but fizbain has the idea down cold. Would take about 1 year for everyone to get a good item. Of course ML has not, will not do the same dungeon for over a year. They do enough to get the core there items. Then lo-and-behold it's time for ML to do something more challenging They will come back to it they say but they must move toward the most challanging Thing in the game thats there drive to be the best its not about loot ( sorry had a brain washing flash back) But they never seem to get back to that.
Tilea said she loved how hoss handed out loot, and how officers didnt load up on the best loot. This is what stunned me the most when I first joined hoss. WHAT THE FIRST CROWN OFF OF CAZIC DIDN"T GO TO THE CLERIC OFFICER/ONE OF THE LEADER'S OF THE GUILD??????????????????? It went to a Regular old cleric who was a member was not part of the clich so to speak he was just a cleric hadnt got a peice of loot in a little while his name was Rolist. (Thats right ladys and gents the first crown of cazic that hoss got and i think it was the first on the server went to a regular old Guild member not a core officer) This happend on a regular basis in hoss when i played and im sure it still does.
Now ask yourself Zerglins what class your in do you even fool yourself into thinking that you will get uber sword of haste unless the core officers already have or dont want said named item. Answer that question truthfully and you will see what im talking about. Because no matter how many Times you show up to the raids no matter if your the first here last to leave you will only get your items when the core dont need what you want/need cause they either a) already have it or B) dont need it cause they have better.
Once again make fun of my typing/spelling if you want dosen't take away form the heart of the matter.
Actually we just switched to a ETN* system of loot distro.Quote:
Originally posted by Jasin!
This happend on a regular basis in hoss when i played and im sure it still does.
* Everything To Nettle
liek cool ololo,
Semele Mooncaller
Am I allowed to PLevel on this thread too, or is this one of thoose no Pleveling threads?
Mitsy
no plvling in this thread.
Yes anon board troll, it is all an elaborate scheme to demoralize ML from the inside, and fulfill our plans of world domination.
Or maybe some of us (or most) are just so disgusted with it that we feel it needs to be said, our of respect for the people within ML getting rammed in the ass.
And I think it's a positive that Vind and Hoss have open boards. Anyone can come here and voice their opinion on something, and as long as it's not a retarded post, it won't get nuked. ML and Lamma's seem to be all worried about their rep lately, so they have nuked their boards. Instead they just go to Druzzil-ro.net and read the Zerg Manifesto to all the lowbies, who of course eat it up and hop in line to be the next people to get a nice gentle reaming.
Nice gentle reaming? That's bad right?
It has nothing to do with rep eomer. We removed general to keep the flames off our boards and anon people from posting BS and having people that visited our site from reading said BS. That is all~. P.S General board will come back up.
God forbid someone should go onto your boards and post something against your guild. Why are you afraid the mindless idiots you recruit might change their mind? Personnally I would rather have people who know the difference between BS and truth. But hey if your people cant tell, I guess that works all the better for you huh? Easier to spin off why your 3rd twink gets vulak loot and they get next Centi LS that drops.
Normally I dont flame but that last post really needed it.
Mitsy
duh :o
duh!
ML's guild member turnover rate far exceeds any other guild I've ever seen. People leave that guild on a weekly basis. People get caught up in the moment, leave in as dramatic and noticable of a way as possible, and then return one day later (ala Leafweir). That kind of turnover doesn't happen if the general populace is completely happy with how their guild is run.
Tilea,
Apart from your exagerations and untrue statements, you're also missing to inform the general populace as to why there is such a "huge" turnover rate, as you so melodramatic illustrate.
In the time I've been with ML, I can think of 1 single Guildmember that didn't leave over *THE* most prominent reason to leave a Guild.
That one member was Doranin.
Guess what the others, including you, left over.
Yes, LOOT.
Some people are under the illusion, that once they've obtained an ML Tag, the phatty comes rolling in, regardless of their contributions and participation on Events and the likes.
Let me give you an example. There was this Woodelf Ranger, by the name of Tilea. She'd be a great participant when she first joined ML, got rewarded accordingly, but over time, her interest in the Guild and its activities seemed to dither and fade. Every couple weeks, you'd see a "I'm gone for an unspecified amount of time" post of said Woodelf Ranger. Eventually, Tilea would return, and gripe and whine in guildchat about how she couldn't level up because of the Raids. As her reason for leaving, she gave the excuse of "I don't want to Raid all the time." It should be mentioned that Tilea was not only unhappy with the raid schedule and the activities of ML, but also with how she did not get items she thought she deserved.
Unfortunately, and this applies throughout the World in Businesses, Families, Organizations, Foundations and Clubs, for one to earn something, they have to work for it.
It is very apparent that in most, if not all cases, the people leaving ML over Loot are or were instant-gratification seekers. I'm not surprised. In an age where with a few keystrokes you can purchase a new Car, House, that super-fast Computer System, it seems like a tedious and boring task having to wait for an item more than a week.
As for the other folks who so generously devote their time to inform the members of ML that our Officers get all the loot...WHY, Thank you!
I'm sure once those members put on the 'Distort-Reality™' Glasses you had on when you posted your rhetoric bullshit, they too will "see the light" and happily leave ML in search of a Guild that, like Credit Cards and ATM's, promises instant gratification.
Until then, you'd be well advised to take care of your own affairs and issues, as there are many that need addressed.
-Neuan Nyagaleth
MEMBER of Mythic Legion (And has Loot, too!)