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When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush.
He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."
Just thought it was a good quote :)
from You made monkey cry
This site cracks me up. But seriously, the writer is right about one thing, we need to question our sources and be critical of the information we're given by the media... any media.
"If you're looking for unbiased journalism, stop. Go watch some cartoons instead.
Surprisingly, this isn't about the war at all, as that would be far too obvious to warrant writing this. Although I could point out that a scant 12 hours ago Fox News reported their reporter (and the military that must have been tagging along with him) found an active chemical weapons factory in the middle of the desert (which, I believe, is where all of Iraq is located). Shocked to see that no one else was reporting this, it took a whole 12 hours to find out that no, it wasn't active, nor had it been active for quite a few years. Responsible journalism at its best."
just use a laser guided bomb with an uranium, chemical and biologial warhead weapon terrorist proppeled on the white house!
Go Go gadget grammar dude.
If nothing in the media is true, then how do the hippies know whats going on there? :D
Fuck the hippies
Well you might be surprised by this but there are other sources besides the media. ;) Also I didn't say it was all false, I merely said you need to question your sources and think critically about the information you are given. :pQuote:
Originally posted by Torrid
If nothing in the media is true, then how do the hippies know whats going on there? :D
And um there are no real hippies anymore :rolleyes: You'd think after 40+ years people would be able to make up a new term.
Hell when you've got a great company line you might as well milk it. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Juneau
When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush.
He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return."
Just thought it was a good quote :)
Vin, whatever you do, don't go to www.expectnothing.com :D
hehe Tor ;)
I dont remember when Iraq blew up the World Trade Center. We seem to have no problem playing "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" with Osama and Saddam to such an extent that we fail to see a difference (not that either is a good guy) between them.
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Why you all leave australians out~ we are representing the coalition too friends!!
These fucking protestors piss me off, if they love iraq, go fucking live there.
You guys should just leave iraq in a creator and save a few tomahawks for the protestors.
Shik
Australians Representing Since WW1!
Refer to my sermon on humor in the "Truth in media" thread for this one ;)
Personally I might find this unfunny and slightly offensive....but someone must be getting a laugh out of it so more power to them.
WHO CARES WHO CARES
I'm sorry, but Sak and I got a huge guilty laugh out of that pic heh
Actually.. the Australian Commandos are doing a fantastic job in Iraq. This was even mentioned specifically by a few of the news reporters. The US troops were quite impressed with their training and action.
And I thought the picture was pretty funny too. When I first saw it.. I knew it was from Shik even before I read the poster's name.
Australlians also contributed a lot to ww2 but don't get much credit for that either. Anyways, I think if people want to protest a war, do it before the war starts. Once the war does start, there are men and women over there with the badge of your country sewn onto their clothing, that are fighting and dying for you.
Whether or not you agree with it, at that point, it's time to shut the hell up. Especially the morons who lay down in streets, should just start running them over, I say.
PS: don't forget the Polish commandos that are over there too! :) Oh and those 31 Canadians who aren't allowed to fire their weapons until they're fired upon first.
Just a small point, but didnt the french mainly help the US at the end of the revolutionary war when victory was already practically ensured? I do believe they didn't want to get involved at first because they were afraid we would loose, but once we started winning they jumped right on the boat. Just pointing it out....Quote:
It's not like the french had helped the americans secure their freedom from the british
France was covertly funneling money in via a trading company (name escapes me) for some time...they didn't officially "come on board" until the US won the Battle of Saratoga....it speaks more to the theory that Europeans were more interested in politics and deliberation, while the United States earned its cowboy reputation for quickly jumping on pirates, Mexico, and any other country that launched some form of attack at us...
Lafeyette was a great aid in winning the War for Independence, but IMO coming to save France and libertaing it to repay the French has always seemed really "for show". We also had the help of a German/French speaking Prussian by the name of von Steuben...and we didn't have too many issues walking into Germany...
Even if you do consider the liberation of France from Nazis a repayment for their aid in the late 18th century, it still doesn't account for the fact that the United States might not have become involved in the protection of French rights in Vietnam...were it not for the fact that NATO had just formed and we were kindof looking to make the organization work and went to the aid of France (who already had England onboard since 1945). Eisenhower's Domino Theory in 1954 did not come out until AFTER the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu....so if you believe American politics today are just geared towards swaying world opinion in our favor, you also have to believe that the Domino Theory was created for the same purpose...to sway world opinion (ie NATO/UN) to assist France
So in effect, the very thing that the French (and many other Europeans etc) accuse the US of being responsible for, the French did 1 generation ago....and brought us in as an Ally. Within 1 year, the US were actively training S Vietnamese troops...so our "cowboy" mentality served France once again...
I don't hold anything against the French, or any other country that doesn't agree with the United States foreign policy (I don't agree with a lot of it myself) But I do have a real problem with hypocrisy. The current leadership of France may be too young to feel they "owe" anything for WW2...but they surely were around during Vietnam, when the US backed the French in something that dragged out for nearly 2 decades....and it wasn't something even remotely altruistic...it was land and economic factors pure and simple...
I'd say any debt to France for the American Revolution has been overpaid...If you don't wanna go then fine, I can respect that viewpoint...but don't try and back the stance with the US's actions over there over the past 30 years. France's hands are just as dirty as the US's in the overall scheme of world politics...maybe yer just upset that Napoleon dropped the ball, or that great big wall didn't quite work out, or even with US asisstance you lost Vietnam...I don't know...but fair weather friends are soon forgotten as it were....think that's where at least some of our sentiments lie at any rate:)