Perhaps over a long term 10+ minute fight. However, it looks like VI is trying to cut down on that, so that may help Wizzies out in that respect. Nukers in general, really.
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Perhaps over a long term 10+ minute fight. However, it looks like VI is trying to cut down on that, so that may help Wizzies out in that respect. Nukers in general, really.
Geez, this thread is full of CRACK SMOKERS.
First of all, most of our warriors have bane weapons, so thats why they are doing so much more than your pets.
Second of all, mage DD and wizard DD resist % is almost identical. If a mage can hit it, so can wizards and vice versa.
And lastly, this patch nerfed the FUCK out of wizards. Why? Mob ac was severely cut. We are now bitches to melee once again. To make it worse, concussion is resistable and by the time we have a strong aggro lock on the MT, the mob will be a quarter dead.
Oh, and lets not forget the ancient Mage nuke that rivals ice spear in ratio. This spell alone will make your damage very close to ours. The wiz ancient is ice based, and ice sucks.
Whoa, they lowered mob AC along with HP? Didn't it occur to them that casters might get a little miffed if suddenly melees started doing a ton more damage?
What? No, actually there was only one bane weapon in the guild when I parsed pet last.
My point was not that my spells are resisted more, it's that you have more selection. If Sunstrike doesn't work, you use Elnericks or Solists. If Ancient:Shock of Sun doesn't work, I use my 825 shock of steel nuke. That's a big difference to me.
That Ancient spell is sold in the bazaar right? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Torrid
Oh, and lets not forget the ancient Mage nuke that rivals ice spear in ratio. This spell alone will make your damage very close to ours. The wiz ancient is ice based, and ice sucks.
A) I mentioned this as an afterthought, not my main argumentQuote:
That Ancient spell is sold in the bazaar right?
B) We're talking about the high end game, comparing EER/GSS and the like, not you newbie mages that get a rush out of owning UP. Garrison's isn't sold in bazaar either, now is it?
C) That spell has a damage per mana ratio of 4.035. GSS has a ratio of 3.888. Once you get this spell, you will be a wizard with the best pet in the game in many situations. Nice balance there.
I don't use solist on anything except exp mobs and AoW. Dunno how many times I have to repeat that...Quote:
If Sunstrike doesn't work, you use Elnericks or Solists
I use fire like 90% of the time on uber mobs. I dunno why, but verant has a hard on for fire.
So I guess wizards own mages on AoW. Thats just reason enough right there to never guild another mage! Man they blow
I missed the ice comment, sorry if you had to repeat it once.
Wizards don't suck. Mages don't suck. Wizards WERE outdamaging mages (by a lot).
I don't think my spells are resisted more often than yours. Of course, I could be wrong. Wizards were hitting Seru for full damage with Garrison's while most of my nukes were under 400 using my Ancient with RSD and Malo in. I don't think the -10 is really much of a difference, but I don't know. I never even brought up your spells being resisted less / more / the same because I didn't think that they were.
I'll return to my crack now.
Key word: WERE. Because you were making rods instead of nuking, and wizards had 3 classes supporting them. That damage is (was) not done by the wizard alone. If you make even a single rod that isn't for yourself, you are skewing the data in the wizard's favor.Quote:
I missed the ice comment, sorry if you had to repeat it once.
Wizards don't suck. Mages don't suck. Wizards WERE outdamaging mages (by a lot).
I don't think my spells are resisted more often than yours. Of course, I could be wrong. Wizards were hitting Seru for full damage with Garrison's while most of my nukes were under 400 using my Ancient with RSD and Malo in. I don't think the -10 is really much of a difference, but I don't know. I never even brought up your spells being resisted less / more / the same because I didn't think that they were.
I'll return to my crack now.
Seru resists wizards too, and rather badly. I'm not stupid though, that -10 actually makes a difference in this case, but its not huge by any means. Also it may be my imagination, but crits tend to hit for full more often than non-crits...
And that crack line was mostly for the other people :D
I meant last Termariel / Mini Aten (and Aten too, of course..but I 10k'd at the start). There were 0 wizard rods and I nuked the whole time.Quote:
Because you were making rods instead of nuking
I'm still going to return to my crack!
mmm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
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Damn you're cool...and really good at flaming too. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Torrid
B) We're talking about the high end game, comparing EER/GSS and the like, not you newbie mages that get a rush out of owning UP. Garrison's isn't sold in bazaar either, now is it?
I think that Torrid doesn't know you Empti, but his arguement is still viable, they were talking end game (SoL) spellines and comparing them none of which are sold in the bazaar btw so slow down the flame wagon.
~Lons
More the tone lons, you're telling the wrong person to stop flames!
Look again, Ktul. They lowered the bolt damage a lot and changed Sun Vortex (level 65) to evocation :(
HAHAHAHAHAHA
:D
Torrid is right, Huge Nerf!! Torrid you crack me up!! Your patience is unreal..
Hate to let everyone in on this, but Necro's are the biggest dmg dealer in town! Period! End of story!!
They can out dmg me by 10-20% on boss type fights.. And they are more versatile then other casting classes by alot.
brb with my necro.......
... said the wizard with one of the largest mana pools on any server, garrison's, ancient concussion, FT 15, and has been eating rods and mana fed since velious.
Btw correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't melee get the kill on the last emp?
:rolleyes:
I have FT14. Rinna was the first wiz in Hoss to FT15 when I had FT10.
If the fights in POP are short, then wizards will be more effective.
I was making a joke mainly, but Aalenu claims she did 145k+ to Aten. This is more then any single wizard did last Aten fight with no Rods, thats all I was saying sheesh. All the wizards did over 100k. I have no clue how much melee dmg is done on an aten fight by any single class.
I do not really care, I love my wizard and always have unlike some people.
People need to relax..
I love my mage :D
I just hope the PoP mobs have the high ac of the luclin mobs, then wizards would own.
Ssssssshhhhhhhhh.....Yes, 150k or so no problem on Aten! Let's make a necro damage group. Fire dots land, nukes land, right click nukes land mmmmmmm. Oh, I mean we suck =(, necros do no damage and have no survival abilities etc...no one should ever want to play a necro, oh the pain. Gonna shut it before we get nerfed for the 5464564 time.
TC